Clive Efford MP

Clive Efford - A Strong Voice for Eltham and Plumstead

Save The Dutch House


Update 23 August:  I have heard reports that the Dutch House has been sold and may be about to close.  To keep up to date with our campaign to save the pub, please register your details below.

UPDATE 31st October 2014: The Council has rejected the plans to turn the Dutch House into a McDonalds. However, McDonalds can appeal the decision within the next 6 months - so we may need your support again - sign the petition below and we will keep you updated.

There is a new planning application to turn the Dutch House pub in Mottingham Road, near the Horn Park Estate, into a drive-through McDonalds open 24 hours a day, seven days a week. 

If you would like to help save the Dutch House then email your objections to by the 28th October. It would be helpful if you could also send a copy of your email to me

Clive has written to the Council to demand that this application is turned down.  “The Dutch House is a vital community resource for the Horn Park Estate and further beyond.  It is vital that we protect community pubs like the Dutch House and I am working hard with local residents to do all that I can to ensure that the pub is saved.”

McDonalds failed with a similar application last year after a strong campaign from Clive and the local community.  “This new application is identical to the last one and I hope that it will be rejected again.  There is already a McDonalds less than 1,500m away at the Yorkshire Grey so I can see no reason for them to apply to close another pub in this way.”

A copy of Clive’s letter is available here.

Guidance for making an objection to the application to turn the Dutch House into a McDonalds restaurant.

It is important to address only planning issues:

  • Pub is a vital hub for local community and is now registered as an Asset of Community Value, giving it better protection.
  • Impact on local health, with primary school only 500m from site.  There is already a McDonalds restaurant at the Yorkshire Grey less than 1,500m away.
  • The Dutch House is locally listed as of architectural interest
  • Concern over traffic congestion and pedestrian safety crossing A20
  • This is an identical application to the one the Council rejected in 2013.
  • Loss of important community amenity for local events and clubs

Issues that cannot be considered as part of the planning process include: loss of view; loss of property value; or the character of an applicant

For more advice please contact me. 

Clive Efford MP, 132 Westmount Road SE9 1UT  020 8850 5744

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signed 2017-04-28 11:20:42 +0100
signed 2017-03-08 08:14:05 +0000
signed 2016-09-04 16:30:09 +0100
This is a big pub which should be protected and maintained as a pub for not just us locals people but people from far and wide. All i have seen is good local pubs closing everywhere this is wrong as we like to socialise with friends ands family where its spacious and comfortable. Whats next the closure of hospital, cinemas or even childrens parks?

This is madness
signed 2016-08-24 17:26:54 +0100
signed 2015-03-10 16:40:38 +0000
signed 2014-12-22 18:55:44 +0000
We have too many fast food outlets!

It was a great shame that The Yorkshire Grey Public House and Harrogate Rooms were acquired by McDonalds – why do we need so many of these fast food places? When we are reminded that there is a problem with obesity in this country, why would permission be granted to these fast foods companies? Haven’t we got too many already? More pressure on the NHS!!
signed 2014-12-20 07:59:00 +0000
signed 2014-11-08 18:08:35 +0000
@cawalsh tweeted link to this page. 2014-10-31 17:21:27 +0000
posted about this on Facebook 2014-10-31 17:21:27 +0000
Sign the petition: Save The Dutch House
signed 2014-10-31 17:18:12 +0000
signed 2014-10-30 09:22:29 +0000
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